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Frustrating

Post by simso » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:07 pm

Got to love it, when you buy something and the instructions to run it are in chinese, or the instructions are for an earlier version which looks nothing like the new version. Or the keypads are written in chinese etc. Aggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,

Sorry had to vent

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Re: Frustrating

Post by charangohabsburg » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:06 pm

simso wrote: Or the keypads are written in chinese
Maybe this is the fastest way to learn chinese! :lol:
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Post by Nick » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:28 am

Over the last few years New Zealand having been importing large amounts of used cars from Japan, only problem is alot of the instructions for tuning the radio's, travel computers e.t.c were also in Japanese so unless you paid somebody to interpret the hyroglyphics, alot of people were driving around with 'unused' accessories. :shock:
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Post by Allen » Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:13 am

Kiwi's can't figure out how to turn the radio on? :shock:


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Re: Frustrating

Post by J.F. Custom » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:38 am

Wouldn't be that new CNC you were waiting on would it ??

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Re: Frustrating

Post by charangohabsburg » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:56 am

:shock:

Imagine Steve wanted to program the machine to make something like this:

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...and then the machine makes something like this!
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Re: Frustrating

Post by kiwigeo » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:57 am

Nick wrote:Over the last few years New Zealand having been importing large amounts of used cars from Japan, only problem is alot of the instructions for tuning the radio's, travel computers e.t.c were also in Japanese so unless you paid somebody to interpret the hyroglyphics, alot of people were driving around with 'unused' accessories. :shock:
I don't see the problem...most of the Japanese grey imports are being driven by boy racers who are generally too thick to understand any language.
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Re: Frustrating

Post by simso » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:32 am

The last three purchases have been labelled in chinese, written in chinese and supplied with manuals that do not look like the machines.

Come on, how difficult can it be. Most of the world is in english, they can talk to you in english when trying to make the sales. But supply machines labelled in english.

Ive actually organised a person who can read chinese to try and decipher things for me, but they could not help out either. Go figure. Hence the aghhhhhhhhhh........
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Re: Frustrating

Post by kiwigeo » Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:14 am

simso wrote:The last three purchases have been labelled in chinese, written in chinese and supplied with manuals that do not look like the machines.

Come on, how difficult can it be. Most of the world is in english, they can talk to you in english when trying to make the sales. But supply machines labelled in english.

Ive actually organised a person who can read chinese to try and decipher things for me, but they could not help out either. Go figure. Hence the aghhhhhhhhhh........
Translating manuals from Chinese to English not as straight forward as it sounds and not a job that can be done by any Tom Dick or Harry. My brother in New Zealand makes a living as a translator....alot of his work is translating Japanese manuals into English. His qualifications..a Masters degree in Japanese and a considerable amount of time spent living in both NZ and Japan.
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Re: Frustrating

Post by Clancy » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:07 pm

You should try commissioning a new system in china where each little piece of equipment installed has a chinese representative with two chinese offsiders, non with any english.
My last week in fulltime work was spent in Beijing trying to get a new system running that involved new chillers, pumps, VSD's, valves, sensors, DDC, HLI, etc, all from different OEM's, all with different reps present for the week fiddling with my settings and generally stuffing things up.
My poor translator was having a hard time toning down the 'australian colloquialism' directed at each and every one of them. :evil:

Last month they asked me to go back again for a new install.
Having the choice is great.
I wrung them for everything I could get.
And then I declined. :wink:
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Re: Frustrating

Post by simso » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:15 pm

Yeh its difficult to say the least. My translator struggled as well, it has something to do not just with how its written but in what sense its written for or something like that

Example on one button he was saying ""this means is like by hand"", the button was power button for operating external controller
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Re: Frustrating

Post by kiwigeo » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:23 pm

simso wrote:Yeh its difficult to say the least. My translator struggled as well, it has something to do not just with how its written but in what sense its written for or something like that

Example on one button he was saying ""this means is like by hand"", the button was power button for operating external controller
Is your translator a native Chinese or English speaker? If you're translating into English then your best bet is a native English speaker who knows Chinese.

Technical translation is a specialised area of translation and often requires someone with experience in this field. My brother has trouble with medical translations so sometimes gets my wife who's a Japanese health professional to help him out. Likewise he's run a few Geology translation jobs past me for assistance at times.
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Re: Frustrating

Post by simso » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:31 pm

Ahh how do I work, me not know... mmm, expensive door stop
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Re: Frustrating

Post by simso » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:34 pm

English customer, so machine supplied in chinese

Manufacturing quality is excellent, software (chinese) is disappointing
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Re: Frustrating

Post by simso » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:35 pm

This machine has no instructions and is gathering dust at the moment, still waiting for manufacturer 3 mths later to supply mandrels for pickups
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Re: Frustrating

Post by Nick » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:58 pm

simso wrote:English customer, so machine supplied in chinese

Manufacturing quality is excellent, software (chinese) is disappointing
This is where the Asian Manufacturers let themselves down, they are manufacturing some good machine tools now (Budget dependant of course!) for worldwide markets but back it up with buggy,difficult & cheapish software. As of last year I have acess to a brand new CNC Mill, machine is made in Taiwan & extremely well made & scaryly accurate but the software we run it with is all American sourced through local agents as the original was as useful as proverbials on a bull. (three axis m/c and software only controlled x,y) :shock:
That pickup winder looks fairly flash, not something you'd want to randomly push buttons on & see what happens!
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Re: Frustrating

Post by Clancy » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:23 pm

.... not something you'd want to randomly push buttons on & see what happens!
Oh go on, Push The Buttons! :lol:
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