Anyway here's the picture of the stuff I have for comparison.
Another "what is this wood"
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Re: Another "what is this wood"
I'm on Tim's team
I have a little bit of Padauk that I got from somewhere (I think somebody bought me some to make a fretboard for them), it's quite red/orange or brick coloured when you first machine or sand the surface, once exposed to a bit of sun it oxidises to a rich brown...weird stuff.
Anyway here's the picture of the stuff I have for comparison.
Anyway here's the picture of the stuff I have for comparison.
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Re: Another "what is this wood"
Thanks everyone, this is getting interesting. I carefully measured and weighed a piece, and according to my calculations it comes out at 711 kgs./cu. metre, if that's any help.
Nick, I think the bits I have are a lot closer grained than the wood in your picture, although the colour is closish.
Nick, I think the bits I have are a lot closer grained than the wood in your picture, although the colour is closish.
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Re: Another "what is this wood"
I reckon this wont help pin it down but I will post it anyway out of interest. The book I use is "World Woods in Color" by William A. Lincoln.
African padauk, P. soyauxii.... 640 - 800 Kg/m3
Andaman padauk, P dalbergiodes... 770 Kg/m3
Burma padauk, P macrocarpus... 850 Kg/m3
NGR or Narra, P. indicus and P. vidaliamus... 660Kg/m3
Notice that three are only given one weight not a range, which is a bit annoying cause all woods have a weight range.
Here is a pic of some Narra from my pile that shows that it does have a colour range but neither of the pieces are quite as orange as your sample (if you look at Taffy's new resonator in the gallery you can see that it gets quite dark in the centre of the boards). These pieces I have are likely to be the most common P. indicus. I have seen it, like Liam in samples as colourfull as yours but it could have been the lesser know Narra P. vidaliamus however this does not exclude some of the other Pterocarpus that commonly go under the name of padauk so I am in both camps here and think in the end you might have to be satisfied with "one of the Pterocarpus genus" given that you are not likely to have it DNA tested. I bet the botanist would have a bit of a chuckle at us for trying to define the tree from a pic of the wood.
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African padauk, P. soyauxii.... 640 - 800 Kg/m3
Andaman padauk, P dalbergiodes... 770 Kg/m3
Burma padauk, P macrocarpus... 850 Kg/m3
NGR or Narra, P. indicus and P. vidaliamus... 660Kg/m3
Notice that three are only given one weight not a range, which is a bit annoying cause all woods have a weight range.
Here is a pic of some Narra from my pile that shows that it does have a colour range but neither of the pieces are quite as orange as your sample (if you look at Taffy's new resonator in the gallery you can see that it gets quite dark in the centre of the boards). These pieces I have are likely to be the most common P. indicus. I have seen it, like Liam in samples as colourfull as yours but it could have been the lesser know Narra P. vidaliamus however this does not exclude some of the other Pterocarpus that commonly go under the name of padauk so I am in both camps here and think in the end you might have to be satisfied with "one of the Pterocarpus genus" given that you are not likely to have it DNA tested. I bet the botanist would have a bit of a chuckle at us for trying to define the tree from a pic of the wood.
Jim
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Ok what do we have?......Toejam wrote: I bet the botanist would have a bit of a chuckle at us for trying to define the tree from a pic of the wood.
Jim
Colour? - Check
Grain?- Check
Density?- Check
Pores (number of & sizing) ?- Check
Smell?- Check
OK only one test left.......
What does it taste like Mike?
(reminds me of the Cheech & Chong dog poo process of elimination skit
You like to confuse don't you Jim? I was perfectly happy thinking Padauk was just plain Padauk, now, thanks to you, it can be any number of different types
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Nick O wrote:
What does it taste like Mike?![]()
(reminds me of the Cheech & Chong dog poo process of elimination skit).
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Jim, I think you're right. I reckon that "one of the Pterocarpus genus" is as close as we're going to get. I'm pretty confident that that is accurate, and whether it is New Guinea Rosewood, or one of the Padauks will be a little secret I shall be happy for the wood to keep.
Nick, I was tempted to try the taste test, but before I do, maybe I should find out first whether it is poisonous or not. Perhaps I should start another thread.
Nick, I was tempted to try the taste test, but before I do, maybe I should find out first whether it is poisonous or not. Perhaps I should start another thread.
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Re: Another "what is this wood"
I dont know what it is ...but it belongs in my wood museum. How much do you want for it Mike?? 
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Just a word of warning regarding Martin's wood museum Mike, I have heard there have been agents for the manufacturers from China snooping around his establishment wearing dark sunglasses and taking video footage. There is a chance you may never see the wood again
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Martin, to be part of the permanent collection of The Martin's Museum of Fine Woods is an honour that most wood can only dream of. Unfortunately, I have already been approached by Sotheby's and Christies, and I have given a tentative nod to Christies for it to be included in the next auction of fine woods not already in The Martin's.
Jim, I think the people in dark glasses with video cameras are The Martin's security.
Jim, I think the people in dark glasses with video cameras are The Martin's security.
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Re: Another "what is this wood"
The real issue is whether or not Martin's tonewood storage facility will have a positive or negative effect on the Aussie Dollar.
The problem is that as the dollar gets better and Martin buys more timber, then if the dollar gets still better and Martin buys more, a bubble can be created. I'm not an economist but I'm pretty sure this is what brought the US economy down. The only thing that will save us will be for Martin to stimulate each and every one of us.
I think the Chinese guys in sunglasses and ill fitting suits prefer the term "henchmen". Their union will be on here quick smart if we don't get that one right. Don't give them reason to hack us again.
The problem is that as the dollar gets better and Martin buys more timber, then if the dollar gets still better and Martin buys more, a bubble can be created. I'm not an economist but I'm pretty sure this is what brought the US economy down. The only thing that will save us will be for Martin to stimulate each and every one of us.
I think the Chinese guys in sunglasses and ill fitting suits prefer the term "henchmen". Their union will be on here quick smart if we don't get that one right. Don't give them reason to hack us again.
Re: Another "what is this wood"
This is the least of our worries Liam, the big issue is the geographical impact that condensing such an incredible volume of cellulose matter at Latitude 34° 50'S with have upon the earth, and more importantly, this planets rotation!liam_fnq wrote:The real issue is whether or not Martin's tonewood storage facility will have a positive or negative effect on the Aussie Dollar.
If you take the time to look at the attached link you will fine a 'tunneling map'. It is interesting that on the 'exact' opposite side of the globe to the Adelaide Hills is the approximate centre point of the North Atlantic Ocean. http://www.freemaptools.com/tunnel-to-o ... -earth.htm. It is also interesting to note that the effects of rising sea levels in this very same area and the recent flood activity in both Brazil and Portugal are being blamed upon global warming even though the climate change lobby itself is finding it difficult to pin point the actual cause.
Could it simply be the case that these so called climate change 'experts' have failed to calculate the obvious effects of centrifugal force as our spinning globe adjusts it's balance within the atmosphere in counteraction to the effects of the Martin Turner experiment??? Could it be that these rising sea level are just the beginning, the first indicator before true catastrophe??? Is it in fact possible that if this madness continues all of Europe and the Americas could be left at the floor of the sea and eventually that our very planet could go spinning from it's axis sending us all to fly off into space as gravity ceases itself to exist???
Probably so me and the lads will be going over to Martin's place latter. Where gonna be having a few beers and building an Ark...got lots of wood for it and need it for the up coming dive trip we've planned to recover sinker lutz spruce from Canada....Sinker Lutz mmmmmmmmmm
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