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Post by jeffhigh » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:58 am

What really makes me cringe, Hesh, (and I am both a US and Australian Citizen) is to hear the POTUS described as

"the leader of the Free World"

If that is the case, maybe we all should have a vote.

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Post by joel » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:57 pm

You forget Jeff, we don't really live in a "Free World". It's just that our illusion of freedom is a little more complete than many nations. (BTW, did you know that Australia does not have a constitutionally protected right to free speech?)

Dennis, apology accepted mate. For a while I thought that "Talladega Nights - The Legend of Ricky-Bobby" might have actually been a documentary. :lol:

And please, lets not discuss "Wrestling". Where's that throwing up emoticon?
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Post by jeffhigh » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:34 pm

Agreed Joel on "Free World"
I really hate the phrase

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Post by Kim » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:20 pm

joel wrote: And please, lets not discuss "Wrestling". Where's that throwing up emoticon?
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There ya go Joel 8)

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Post by Hesh1956 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:08 am

Great emoticon Kim and I move that we include it in the available emoiticons! :D

Jeff good point - well if we Americans (you and I) have to suffer through some moron being our dear leader then why not share? :D

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Post by Paul B » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:06 am

Hey, can anyone else hear that rumbling sound?

Sounds like it might be a frickin LANDSLIDE!

Anyways, that's my prediction, record voter turnout and a landslide victory.

Saw the Boss on the telly, he want's his (Runaway) American Dream, back. Cool, might give him some inspiration for his next album, 'cause the last couple ain't been so good.

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Post by Dennis Leahy » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:55 pm

I thought this was interesting. A lot of this is not what should be used to judge the fitness of an individual to hold high office, but if the shoe was on the other foot, if the Republicans had this much ammo to destroy Obama, I'll bet they would have used every bit of it.

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*YOU MAKE THE CALL *

What if things were switched around? Think about it. Would the country's collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit????

What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, following the debate, including a three month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?

What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his college graduating class?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to publicly display a serious anger management problem?

What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer distribution?

You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected a reality, if the tables were turned, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative characteristics in another when there is a color difference.

And, think of this - the candidates' educational backgrounds:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations. Magna Cum Laude
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world.

You make the call.
Another damn Yank!

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Post by sebastiaan56 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:19 pm

Dennis,

i once heard it expressed as the ultimate job interview...., based on their CV's who would you hire to run the company?

We will know in a few hours. Do the schools over there act as polling booths and throw on fund raisers to supplement their pathetic allowance from the government? We raised $1650 at the last election, bought air cons for 2 classrooms.
make mine fifths........

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Post by Paul B » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:37 pm

There was a dream that was America, and even over here we believed in it, always have (my Mum told me of people crying in the streets over here when JFK got shot). There's only one candidate who can give that back to you, your dream, your belief in your country, your hope. Shit, give it back to all of us. Don't let us down.

Man, I'm gonna be up all night watching this shit go down.

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Post by Allen » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:34 pm

I stayed up and watched Four Corners last night. Touring through the Rust Belt. Talking to "Joe the plumber".

I was pretty dismayed at the mind set and reasoning behindf the way they were voting of many of the people interviewed. I don't know if it's indicative of "Joe the plumber's across the USA. But from what I saw and heard from these people, it seems that a great deal of them were way down the IQ scale.

I'm not saying that who they were voting for made a difference in my opinion, just the why.

Everything from Obama is a Muslim, so they wouldn't vote for him. He's black and therefore doesn't have American interests at heart. He's gonna take away our guns. He's a socialist, and going to tax us to death. God wants America to be Republican, Sarah Palin is a woman, and I want a woman president (Perhaps they have some inside info that McCain isn't going to last a full term).....well you get the idea.
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